Name: Don Whitley
e-mail: don@geosofteurope.co.uk
Date/time: 2/14/100 12:38 PM
Subject: Moorings
Message: Are there any permanent Narrow Boat moorings, marinas in or near the Wallingford Area? Any help appreciated Thanks
Don
Name: byron n/a
e-mail: byrona@royal.net Date/time: 2/14/100 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Moorings
Message: Don Whitley on 2/14/100 12:38 PM said:
This stretch of the Thames is the longest between locks. Despite this it has fewer moorings than the shortest stretch of the Thames, this appears to be due to S.Oxon's seeming hatred of anything to do with boats. Any moorings coming available usually go to members of the Oxford Ditch Cruising Club who tend to hear of them first. You might try Benson Marina, Maid Boats and the Shillingford Bridge Hotel (S.Oxon took away half their moorings though)
Name: Don Whiteley
e-mail: don@geosofteurope.co.uk
Date/time: 2/15/100 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: Moorings Message: Thanks for that, Do the Council own the mooring rights? Should I contact them? Looking to rent a permanent site.
Name: byron n/a e-mail: byrona@royal.net
Date/time: 2/16/100 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Moorings
Message:
The Council do not own any mooring rights they just refuse to allow anyone to moor boats. There have been several cases over the years where they have refused planning permission. The word 'permenant' coupled to Narrowboat would in itself send them in to a fury because they would immediately confuse that with residential so if you do find a willing farmer take care with your choice of words. To them more than 2/3 boats constitutes a Marina of the standing found on the Hamble
The Council do not own any mooring rights they just refuse to allow anyone to moor boats. There have been several cases over the years where they have refused planning permission. The word 'permenant' coupled to Narrowboat would in itself send them in to a fury because they would immediately confuse that with residential so if you do find a willing farmer take care with your choice of words. To them more than 2/3 boats constitutes a Marina of the standing found on the Hamble
Name: Edna Meacher
e-mail: Edna43@Tesco.net
Date/time: 2/17/100 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: Moorings
Message: As secretary of the South Oxon branch of the International Water Birds Trust, I would like to say that most local residents would rather see Moorhens than Moorings, or indeed the Morons who usually drive them. Let's keep our stretch of the Thames as it is - quiet, green, clean, and with as little space as possible for noisy, smelly, diesel belching boats and their usually drunken, loutish crews.
Name: jonnie aguthnot
e-mail: jonnie@hotmail.com
Date/time: 2/17/100 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: Moorings
Message:
What a load of codswallop. It sounds like you are the person who has been at the gin bottle. I have boated the Thames for 60+ years and have yet to meet other than civility and respect from people with motor boats. As for loutish crews if you madam protray the same attitude verbally as you show here I daresay you would turn anyone to drink
Name: Don Whitely
e-mail: don@geosofteurope.co.uk
Date/time: 2/17/100 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Moorings
Message: Oh Edna,
I wouldn't consider myself a drunken lout but heho I wouldn't want this stretch of the thames to be home to rusty old buckets of boats with new age flavoured crew. However a few tastefully decorated narrow boats do tend to lend romance and authenticity to the riverbank. Moorhens I am afraid do nothing for me at all !
Don ;+)
Name: byron n/a e-mail: byrona@royal.net
Date/time: 2/17/100 4:47 PM Subject:
Re: Moorings Message: Don Whitely on 2/17/100 10:25 AM said:
Sweet Old Dear, bless her. she's far too myopic to realise if there were more boats there would be less people shooting illegally along the river banks wiping out the ducks as evinced by the lack of Ducks, Snipe and others on the stretch above Cleve Lock to the Railway Bridge at Moulsford. She's far too selfish to realise the river is for everyone not just for Moorhens that tend to live up Creeks and inlets than mainstream, she's far too hidebound to know that if it were not for the boat's licence fees then the river would have long ago fallen into disrepair, she probably doesn't realise that there is more damage done to the river banks by Walkers than by boats (racing sculls excepted) There is ample room on the river for everyone, Anglers, Wild Life Lovers, Narrowboats and real boats. It is riparian owners such as myself who do more for wildlife in one week than killjoys like than the Edna's of this world do in a lifetime
Name: Edna Meacher
Email: Edna43@tesco.net
Date/time: 2/18/100 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: Moorings
Message: Thanks to those boat owners who responded in a civil tone - there may be space in a riverine idyll for them as they doff their Captain's caps at nature loving, law abiding ramblers on the tow path who it seems are eroding our county faster than the boat wash that eats at its river banks.
But the rest of you have proved my point that boaties are usually loutish, hurling ribald abuse as you urinate gleefully into Mother Thames. Luckily on the internet I cannot assess your sobriety.
Thanks to you all for your swift responses - it seems that the discussion group is at last seeing some discussion, albeit somewhat tainted by ungentlemanly conduct.
Edna
teddy fisher on 2/17/100 11:13 PM said:
>>Silly old biddy.
Oh! I understand now, silly me, it's OK for you to insult every boat owner but they are not allowed to respond. Personally I think people have been most restrained all things considered. You are a selfish person who has turned a civil request from a polite narrowboat owner into a Civil War with your uncalled for rudeness.
I own over 600 yards of river frontage and can assure you that the damage to the banks is caused by floods and the rowing eights/chase boats. Motorboats have very little to do with it, after all they are only there for a third of a year at most. I don't know about Mr Fisher's remark about you being a silly old biddy as I don't know your age. You certainly are a SELFISH one. But I suppose you are so bound up in your self appointed guardianship of Moorhens that you cannot see that.
Name: Edna Meacher
e-mail: Edna43@tesco.net
Date/time: 2/18/100 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Moorings
Message: Please refer to my previous messages - I didn't insult every boat owner - just the loutish ones - 'usually' does not mean every boat owner.
As for your boastful ownership of 600 yards of river bank, please tell me where it is as my teenage neighbours are looking for land owned by (as they say) 'a stuck up old git' where they can set fire to stolen cars.
Message: Barry Didcot - People's Mayor of Didcot on 2/18/100 10:51 AM said:
>>I'm with Edna on this one. This Byron charachter sounds like a right old git. If you can't treat a lady with respect, then I also want to know where this 600 yards of pristine river front is as I have a fat old labrador ready to park his breakfast (last night's pizza with chicken vindaloo topping) somewhere scenic.
Name: simon withers
e-mail: sw@bigfoot.com
Date/time: 2/18/100 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Moorings
I have been quiet up to now feeling that everyone else was doing a grand job on Soppy Edna who seems to hate not just Boaters but her neighbours too. Now we have that sad b****** the self appointed Mayor of Didcot joining Soppy Edna the self appointed Gauleiter of the Thames.
Name: paul MYOB
e-mail: paulmmt@yahoo.com
Date/time: 2/19/100 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Moorings
Message: Whaddya expect Simon? That Didcot's very own village idiot would not team up with Wallingford's village idiot. Barry and Edna cor what a pair!!!!!
BTW. I dont have a boat :-(
Name: Teddy Fisher
e-mail: angler@anglers.net
Date/time: 2/19/100 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Moorings Message:
teddy fisher on 2/17/100 11:13 PM said:
ANYBODY WORKED OUT THAT AN ANAGRAM OF EDNA MEACHER IS "ACHE RENAMED" VERY APT DON'T YOU THINK
The anagram of EDNA AND BARRY describes the two of them best BAN AND DREARY
Dr Pieter Van den Haaf on 2/21/100 10:56 AM said:
>>I have enjoyed the debate, but feel that I must challenge Mr Byron's statement regarding motor boats not causing damage to river banks. Here at the Delft Riverine Laboratory, in Netherlands, we have exhaustively studied the impact of river craft on european river ecology and find that large craft, when using the river in a distinct tourist season (ie Mr Byron's 'third of the year') do cause a large degree of bank erosion, as they have relatively large drafts, and strong bow waves 'interfere' causing abrasive erosive action. 8's abnd chase boats cause far less as they have small drafts and do not interefere when the only boat on the river. Whereas floods also deposit sediment and therefore construct as well as erode, the large craft do not. This is not to mention the bumping of large craft when moored against unprotected banks. In turn, 'protecting' banks with concrete causes problems in itself, as the failure of 'canalisation' in the UK and elsewhere proves. I have had the pleasure to canoe through Wallingford in my youth and I have to say that in the interests of all people, let us limit large motor boats on our beautful waterways. Finally, I assume that you aware of the affect of motor pollution on the Thames ecosystem - no matter how careful you are, boat engines pollute waterways. So, before we listen to too many vociferous statements by those obviously with a vested interest (ie land owners who favour more moorings for financial reasons), please remember that residents such as Edna who walk by the river have rights as well, although they may not have the financial status to have their point of view canvassed unless they shout very loud.
>>Yours
>>
>>Pieter
e-mail: byrona@royal.net
Date/time: 2/21/100 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: Challenging assumptions about erosion
Message:
My initial reaction is to bow to superior knowledge on this subject and to thank you for bringing some reason to the subject rather than watching people take sides and insult each other.
I would however like to observe that when an '8' goes by at speed it leaves a massive underswell which appears to me to suck at the bank, the 'chase' boats spend more time off the plane than on it travelling at a speed which seems to me to dig the stern down. I would like to hear your observations on this.
I would however like to observe that when an '8' goes by at speed it leaves a massive underswell which appears to me to suck at the bank, the 'chase' boats spend more time off the plane than on it travelling at a speed which seems to me to dig the stern down. I would like to hear your observations on this.
Barry Didcot - People's Mayor of Didcot
e-mail: Barry@Diddy-doddy.com
Date/time: 2/21/100 11:01 AM
Subject: That Dr Pieter bloke is the main event
Now that Pieter, he really is the bloke!
Brains, talks like a gent (unlike the rest of you Wallingford mongrels). The only problem is that he is a Clogger, a bleedin' edam. But I'd sooner listen to him that that Byron old git. As for the rest of you, all of the anagrams tell me that you lot should get out more.
Name: Dr Gilda de Boer
e-mail: gilda@delftonline.com
Date/time: 2/21/100 3:28 PM
Subject: toys for the boys
Message: My colleague Pieter has showed me the interesting discussion so far. As head of Anthropology at the Delft Riverine Laboratory, I would like to note that lots of classic male 'boaters' seem to have ganged up on the lone female voice. This aggression by male boaters can be noted throughout europe waterways. I should add that some men without boats also tend to side with those that do as they share a bond based on aspiration to be macho 'captain of the ship' etc. In Dutch we have a traditional saying about river boaters, which translates as something like "boats are to be played with when boys are old enough to get slapped for play with their winkies". Sorry, my english is not so good. Glad to join Edna as another woman voice. Also Don sounds like nice sort of reasonable male boater.
Gilda
Name: Don W e-mail: Don@wallingford.co.uk
Date/time: 2/21/100 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: toys for the boys
Message: Once saw a boat called toys for the boys which i thought was neat :+)
Thanks Gilda I am a reasonable sort of chap. A bit romantic perhaps. Having spent time in the USA however I am horrified by the cost of living in this Country. Property, food, Fuel all the necessities in life are Preposterously high! How on Earth are average families affording the house prices around at the moment. I brought in Reading two years ago and although I am happy with the value rise it is really worthless as I couldn't afford anything better if i wanted to trade up ! Living on a boat however did appeal :+)
D
D
Name: byron n/a e-mail: byrona@royal.net Date/time: 2/21/100 5:16 PM Subject: Re: toys for the boys Message: Dr Gilda de Boer on 2/21/100 3:28 PM said:
I stand with my head hung in shame, It never for a moment occured to me that there was anything chauvanistic in the debate. Incidentally, your English is excellent. ;-) Also who can argue with a Nederlander on the subject of inland waterways.
Name: Dr Gilda de Boer
e-mail: Gilda@delftonline.com Date/time: 2/22/100 8:55 AM
Subject: still playing with winkies
Message: I read Byron's message and suspect that his reference to 'Nederlander inland waterways' is what is in French called a 'double entendre' - I don't know words in english, but meaning in this case is a oblique reference to women's private love-making parts. Along with your e-mail wink I think that you might be called a 'dirty old man' (a phrase in english that I do know from 'Steptoe and Son' repeated on Dutch TV). Please to Byron, don't dirty the debate.
Gilda
Name: byron n/a
e-mail: byrona@royal.net
Date/time: 2/22/2000 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: still playing with winkies
Message:
Gilda, Gilda, Gilda, I assure you that no double entendre was intended. I fear it is you that is reading sexist and chauvanistic meanings into every word I write. My reference to Dutch Inland Waterways was a genuine reference to the fact that the Netherlands are the undisputed world leaders in matters regarding inland waterways. You really must stop looking for hidden meanings.
Gilda, Gilda, Gilda, I assure you that no double entendre was intended. I fear it is you that is reading sexist and chauvanistic meanings into every word I write. My reference to Dutch Inland Waterways was a genuine reference to the fact that the Netherlands are the undisputed world leaders in matters regarding inland waterways. You really must stop looking for hidden meanings.
Name: Barry Didcot - People's Mayor of Didcot
e-mail: Barry@Diddy-doody.com Date/time: 2/22/100 4:40 AM
Subject: an extra 'anchor' on Byron's ship
Message: Just got back from the boozer and I say hats of to our dutch friends for putting the Wallingford merchant bankers in line. Two observations though: Don and that old git Byron (isn't that a girl's name?)... as soon as a whiff of younger woman comes floating up stream your both splashing on the Old Spice and giving it e-mail winks. You boys really should get out and see some real ladies once in a while. Second: Don't miss the fact, Bryony, that Dr Gilda's wise old saying was implying that you are a bit of an 'anchor' (in boating parlance, scuse my silent W). Come on Edna, what do you think about all this?
cheers to the Bleedin' Edams for putting you all straight.
cheers to the Bleedin' Edams for putting you all straight.
bye for now
Barry - People's Mayor and voice of reason
Name: Don W e-mail: don@wallingford.co.uk Date/time: 2/22/2000 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: an extra 'anchor' on Byron's ship
Message: Well Baz,
I guess Edna was wrong again ! She thought it was us boat owners that were lager drinking foul mouthed louts when we have our epitome in what proports to be the Didcot Mayor !
As for real woman and old Spice, sorry mate I bat for the other side ! have a field day with that one !
D
:+)
As for real woman and old Spice, sorry mate I bat for the other side ! have a field day with that one !
D
:+)
Name: Barry (not Baz) People's Mayor and liberal voice of reason
e-mail: Barry@Diddy-doddy.com
Date/time: 2/23/2000 4:12 AM
Subject: Re: an extra 'anchor' on Byron's ship
Message:
Don
Back from the boozer late again -sorry to keep anyone up. I acknowledge that I am foul mouthed and drunken (and proud of it - a great british tradition) but you assume that I am also some kind of fascist bogeyman. Please note that I stepped in when you boys seemed to be getting a bit hot under the collar giving it e-harassment to our new dutch Dr lady friend (winkie winkie indeed). I don't care who bats for what side (and they even play cricket in windmillland, so I hear, as indeed people bat for all sorts of sides in Didcot), so long as common sense prevails and we all have a good laugh. Sorry to let you down by not conforming to all of your assumed blokish prejudiced stereotypes - this isn't the nineties, mate. Mind you, the last person that called me 'Baz' in public got what in Didcot boating parlance we call the 'Broadways Keel haul' (a bit like a 'wedgie' but with a crew of 4 doing the hauling). So, Don, don't get carried away with your pyschobabble projections mate, and 'Barry' or simply 'your People's Mayorship' is preferred when I am being addressed directly.
Barry - reasonable, if drunken and foul mouthed people's Mayor of Didcot
Name: Don W e-mail: don@wallingford.co.uk Date/time: 2/23/2000 12:02 PM Subject:
Re: an extra 'anchor' on Byron's ship
Message: I guess I too stepped onto the stereotyping boat freshly set sail by our lovely Edna with her blessed Lager Louts v Moorhens. My apologies to you then Mr Mayor. Although I hadn’t picked up from your posts that you were a liberally minded millennium man I raise my luke warm mug of tea in respect. Onwards then Mr. Mayor !
Don
Name: Barry People's liberal minded bloke e-mail: Barry@Diddy-doddy.com Date/time: 2/23/2000 1:25 PM Subject: Don's apology accepted Message: That's alright, Don, mate. Glad to see that you educated pensive types get caught out once in a while. The threatened 'Broadways Keel Haul' is withdrawn. Maybe I'll reserve it for my next riverside walk with the fat old dog, in case we bump into the squire of Wallingford - that old git Bryon. It was champion when Dr Gilda caught him with his virtual trousers down and a frame or two of pocket billiards on his mind.
Onwards and upwards (beer to drink and people to glare at)
Barry (people's etc etc)
Name: Dr Pieter Van den Haaf
e-mail: PVDHaaf@aol.com Date/time: 2/23/2000 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: Challenging assumptions about erosion
Message: Sorry for the delay in responding – actually, I was in Brussels attending the expert working committee on management of Europe’s inland waterways and riverine resources.
We worked on various pieces of legislation that are currently being pushed through the European Parliament to address concerns similar to those expressed by Edna. One is the so called ‘Greener Waterways’ legislation which aims to classify all water ways as green, 'double green', blue, or black – the purpose being to greatly reduce boat traffic and pollution of all kinds on beautiful rivers such as the Thames – which would be a green waterway upstream of Reading.
The legislation planned for the Thames is to impose an additional ‘Euro river tariff' on all powered boats based on engine capacity and length, and to impose additional tolls collected at Locks for some ‘Double green’ stretches (for example, the stretch at Goring Gap is proposed as a double green stretch). I am only currently knowing the proposed toll charges in Euros but not in pounds, and they are unofficial anyway so do not mention here but will be quite heavy tolls. The idea is to greatly reduce the traffic by increasing the ‘luxury tax’ on powered boating.
The legislation planned for the Thames is to impose an additional ‘Euro river tariff' on all powered boats based on engine capacity and length, and to impose additional tolls collected at Locks for some ‘Double green’ stretches (for example, the stretch at Goring Gap is proposed as a double green stretch). I am only currently knowing the proposed toll charges in Euros but not in pounds, and they are unofficial anyway so do not mention here but will be quite heavy tolls. The idea is to greatly reduce the traffic by increasing the ‘luxury tax’ on powered boating.
The probably only exception to this will be barges/narrow boats as they have less erosive impact and also (as Don pointed out) enhance the heritage value of riverine resources. A moratorium on moorings is also suggested, similar to that imposed with success on car parking spaces in many cities in Germany. Of course, with the expected reduction in the number of erosive powered boats caused by the so called ‘luxury tax squeeze’ there will be more moorings available for traditional narrow boats like Don’s. Finally on the agenda is a ‘ceiling’ on the ownership of river bank similar to that in coastal Southern Europe and Turkey. Basically, private land owners with frontages of over 200 metres long (I am not sure what that is in your British yardages) will be ‘capped’ with the rights for the additional river frontage being ceded to the local authority for a token one-off lease amount. In each authority, a riverine committee will be set up to manage river resources under the new ‘Greener Waterways’ legislation. The committee will include boat users but also other parties who enjoy the river, such as walkers, fishing people and bird spotters. Luckily there is no plan to include like Edna’s neighbours the stolen car burning teenagers or dog shit leavers like Barry’s labrador doggie!
In contrast to motor boats, all tariffs and taxation on unpowered boats would be abolished. Commercial marinas would be somewhat regulated but the main aim is to reduce private use of boats, not harm established riverine businesses. However, one possible piece of legislation is to beautify and ‘heritage-enhance’ the commercial boats such as with traditional painting designs and traditional painted buckets, flowers etc.
In contrast to the Thames and other such ancient rivers, the waterways in the Netherlands will be largely ‘Blue’ rated as they were largely artificially created at the time of Polderisation and so open to all boats. It is somewhat ironic that I am a nature loving Dutchman greatly involved in planning quite radical environmental legislation for the united Europe which has going to have very little impact on boat owners (like me) in my native land!
Yours
Pieter
Name: peter * e-mail: SmartEmail@EXJI.bigfoot.com Date/time: 2/23/2000 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: Challenging assumptions about erosion
Brussels? Is this the same Brussels that wish to dictate the curvature of a Banana and other stupidities? it must be because they haven't calculated that if someone has paid £100-250,000 for a boat a few quid extra to to use the entire Thames. NO! I'm not a boat owner nor do I own river frontage. I am an Angler though. Just a thought but if someone is allowed 200 metres of frontage but no more, what happens then? Do Walkers have to go inland to walk around the owners house and then walk back to the river again? Or will they be allowed to remove fences and walls to walk across people's gardens?
What happens if people have say 300 metres and 'sell' to a neighbour who has 200 metres? Or even give it away to a relative. Lots of typical Brussels flaws here chum.
What happens if people have say 300 metres and 'sell' to a neighbour who has 200 metres? Or even give it away to a relative. Lots of typical Brussels flaws here chum.
Name: zed barnes e-mail: zbarnes@unbounded.com Date/time: 2/23/2000 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Challenging assumptions about erosion Message: peter * on 2/23/2000 8:18 PM said:
If you have over 200 meters (660 ft) just split up the extra and sell it to members of your family, or put it into a Trust, there is a zillion ways to get around this Brussels nonsense. I dont own river frontage either but I dont like the idea of land stealing by decree.
Name: jimmy fisher e-mail: jf@anglers.net Date/time: 2/24/2000 8:14 AM Subject: Re: Challenging assumptions about erosion Message: zed barnes on 2/23/2000 8:28 PM said:
Bet you a Roach to a Minnow the Angling Clubs who lease stretches of river banks from Farmers will not be too pleased either
Name: Edna43@tesco.net Edna e-mail: Meacher Date/time: 2/26/2000 4:24 AM
Subject: Europe sees sense
Message: Hats of to Europe for seeing sense on the boating issue. I will be happy to see Byron and all of you others flexing taught muscles in your clinker bottomed rowing boats of yore, the soft swish of blades on calm water as you pass Moorhens and their ilk, undisturbed by bloated drunkards in their motorised floating gin palaces.
In the last European election many people in Wallingford seemed unconcerned about voting or about issues on the slate. Perhaps this will make them buck up their little islander ideas! Well, belligerent boat owners - C'est la vie!
Edna
Name: all balls e-mail: LIAR@DELFTONLINE.COM Date/time: 2/25/2000 8:25 PM Subject: total balls Message: EVERYTHING WRITTEN BY THE TWO ADDRESSEES CLAIMING TO BE FROM DELFT LABORATORY IS TOTAL BALLS.
THERE IS NO SUCH LABORATORY AND THE PEOPLE DO NOT EXIST.
YOU HAVE ALL BEEN HAD
THERE IS NO SUCH LABORATORY AND THE PEOPLE DO NOT EXIST.
YOU HAVE ALL BEEN HAD
Name: Dr Pieter Van den Haaf
e-mail: PVDHaaf@aol.com
Date/time: 2/26/2000 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: total balls
Message:
Dear all
I can assure the last message writer that we do exist. I have taken to the precaution of closing my e-mail account to direct e-mails from certain discussion groups so your e-mail may have been returned but I can assure you that the Delft Laboratory, myself and Dr Gilda are very much here. I fear that this is a spoiling tactic to sabotage our voice in the so far very interesting debate.
I can assure the last message writer that we do exist. I have taken to the precaution of closing my e-mail account to direct e-mails from certain discussion groups so your e-mail may have been returned but I can assure you that the Delft Laboratory, myself and Dr Gilda are very much here. I fear that this is a spoiling tactic to sabotage our voice in the so far very interesting debate.
Thanks - please give all sides a voice
Pieter
Name: batty barry e-mail: dopey@didcot.com Date/time: 2/27/2000 8:35 AM Subject: Re: total balls Message: inspector poirot on 2/26/2000 6:09 AM said:
>>Funny that, strange really, no one in Holland has heard of your or your organization. Delft University have no knowledge either and the Dutch Police are interested too.
>>
Nobody worked it out yet? The Dutchmen and Batty Baz are one and the same
Name: Barry Didcot - People's Mayor of Didcot
e-mail: Barry@Diddy-doddy.com Date/time: 2/29/2000 4:05 AM
Subject: Come on Byron, don't spoil the larks
Message: Come on Byron, just because you were caught out by the Dutchies don't throw your virtual weight around. I haven't laughed so much in ages. I, Barry, defintely do exist (my ex-Missus says that if I don't exist who should she claim maintenance from? you?). I don't know about the Dutchies - but if they weren't real, they were much more of a laugh than the rest of the real old gits on the Wallingford page. Maybe this page needs more virtual laughs and less flesh and bones old gits. How can we be sure that your 600 yards of pristine river front is anything more than romantic bytes on the turgid hard disk of your dreams, mate? Who else isn't real? Virtual Don? Cyborg teddy fisher the anagram git? Edna 'T2' Meacher? Does it matter? Anyway, set the virtual Dutch Police on the virtual Dutchies and let's all have a reality bound dull time ruminating on traffic or whether the bin men are collecting on a bank holiday.
Get a grip mate - if it wasn't for a lark we would never have met. try and learn a bit of a sense of humour off Don - now he's the boy.
Get a grip mate - if it wasn't for a lark we would never have met. try and learn a bit of a sense of humour off Don - now he's the boy.
Barry Didcot - People's Mayor of Didcot
-mail: don@wallingford.co.uk Date/time: 2/29/2000 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Come on Byron, don't spoil the larks
Message: I guess nobody can take anything for face value when so many pseudonyms abound. Oh how naive I was when I joined this forum with my innocent question like, where can I park a boat ? Still I must say it has kept me amused during the dull periods stuck in front of this machine at work ! I guess I was too sceptical too in believing that Barry was in fact a Mayor and that Gilda and Pieter were in fact anything but virtual . Byron and Edna are too passionate not to be real , Oh how I would like to be on that riverbank when they come face to face:+))) We could have a beer Barry and watch the sparks fly ? eh whatdya think? So keep it coming guys it’s keeping me amused !!!!!!
Cheers, a very real DON !
:+)
Name: Barry Didcot - People's Mayor of Didcot e-mail: Barry@Diddy-doddy.com Date/time: 3/1/2000 4:08 AM Subject: Not Mayor, People's mayor Message: Don,
Jeez, these late nght typing sessions are doing my head in. Anyway, Mate, assuming you exist, I never said that I was 'Mayor of Didcot', I said 'People's Mayor of Didcot'. Like, the difference between 'Princess Anne' and 'the people's princess' (that blonde one - God rest her soul) or 'poet laureate' and 'people's poet' (not that pam ayers, mind). Get the difference?
I thought that all the shouting was Byron, but was it you? If it wasn't Byron I owe him an apology - sorry Byron, old mate. Please rejoin the fray.
Jeez, these late nght typing sessions are doing my head in. Anyway, Mate, assuming you exist, I never said that I was 'Mayor of Didcot', I said 'People's Mayor of Didcot'. Like, the difference between 'Princess Anne' and 'the people's princess' (that blonde one - God rest her soul) or 'poet laureate' and 'people's poet' (not that pam ayers, mind). Get the difference?
I thought that all the shouting was Byron, but was it you? If it wasn't Byron I owe him an apology - sorry Byron, old mate. Please rejoin the fray.
Barry - People's Mayor of Didcot
Name: Don W e-mail: don@wallingford.co.uk
Date/time: 3/1/2000 10:28 AM Subject: Of Mayors, Poets, lock ins et al
Message: I think the guy with the permanent capital lock who started the shouting thread is the Anagram king n'est ce pas? Anyway Byron, thanks for your help in the beginning which started the ball rolling, I am sorry that you got dragged into a slanging match subsequent to the Edna thing (Bless her) . Unfortunate how it happened but I guess there are always going to be those who abuse this medium. Also Barry, I got the subliminal "People's" thing OK ! Quite a huge mantel to shoulder though, particularly for sunny Didcot. So this pub of yours must do decent lock-ins if you don't roll into 4 am ref:the time on your postings ????? Don't you have to get up for work in the mornings?
Beautiful day out there. Why I am here? I should be sitting on the riverbank next to me boat, with a pils & lime watching the world go by.
BTW Byron, you never offered me a mooring on your 600 metres.
Cheers
Don
Don
Name: byron n/a
e-mail: byrona@royal.net
Date/time: 3/1/2000 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: Not Mayor, People's mayor
Message:
My posts are easy to recognise by (A) My use of HTML (B) A genuine EMail address.
I have had little or nothing to do with all the posts although I have taken all the stick.
My posts are easy to recognise by (A) My use of HTML (B) A genuine EMail address.
I have had little or nothing to do with all the posts although I have taken all the stick.
Don't blame me, blame the council. I'm not in the moorings game anyway but there are others who would like to supplement there income I'm sure
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